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of mind when they drop their child off for first grade? >> over the line, the nra web video targeting the president's daughters. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? >> what's wrong with these people? you have children that had no say in the decision on whether their father is going to step forward to be president of the united states, what the nra once was, it no longer is. this extremism is so frightening. >> msnbc's joe scarborough will be with me in a few moments to say more about the nra tactics, as well as his thoughts on the future of the republican party. >>> and the gun fighters, inside "time" magazine's special report on gun control with managing editor rick stangle. >>> president morsi over his anti antisemetic tirade. >>> and candid clinton. how healthy is hilary? >> she's always been very, very healthy. i tell her, you know, she's still got hind to have three more husbands after me. >> bill clinton with dr. nancy snyderman. go
that we can act cooperatively. >> the nra's come out with a statement today in which they say a number of things. but they also say that only honest law abiding gunowners will be affected if we, quote, if anyone is attacking firearms and ignoring children. that's not the solution to the crisis we face. of course their position has always been this. clearly that is going to be a very tough battle for the president. and it will rely on many democrats who are in red states and who have felt the full force of the pulleying nra stand up and be counted. are they going to do that? >> i think that the issue remains a very open one in the minds of many of my colleagues because they are hearing from their constituents that we really need to do something about gun violence. in fact, i heard that said to me personally again and again and again in the days that i was in newtown after this horrific tragedy, the days and the weeks that i spent huge amounts of time there. people in newtown, people in connecticut and across the country are saying we have to do something about gun violence. and let's re
. >> indeed. the gaming industry is the last in a series of group meetings, including the nra and other gun groups yesterday. and it's their allies who are extremely eager to blame games or anything else for violent crime. >> i think there's a very good different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. >> if we focus on the gun, we miss the opportunity in of this country to zero in on the real problem. >> the dangers of violent video games, but they get too many friends and donors in hollywood. >> we can eliminate knives in people's homes and baseball bats and hammers and take away blunt objects of any kind. >> okay. we can save lives by taking away video games, baseball bats, and blunt objects. but not guns. even though it was a military-style ar-15 semiautomatic that claimed the lives of 20 children and 6 staff members at sandy hook elementary. a similar weapon used by the accused mass murderer james holmes who killed 12 people and wounded more than 50 others at a movie theater in aurora, colorado. it was a gun, not a baseball bat, that took the lives of more than 335,000 amer
news talks about how the nra has put out a new app that allows young children and everybody ages 4 and up, to use assault weapons on an iphone app. at an early age, i guess. >> someone sent me the apps available on iphones and other phones. >> how sick is this? how sick are these people running a great organization, proud organization? how sick are these people that have commandeered the nra and turned them into an extremist operation for survivalist and gun manufacturers? how many million s s of dollars have people made over the slaul slaughter of innocents, now they're doing this. >> at the top of the house, nra does not represent gun owners. they represent manufacturers and money. >> there you go. >> they don't represent million s of americans that want to defend themselves. harold, you're from tennessee, an nra supporter. l let's talk about people in the northeast that don't understand what nra has been, what a great organization it has been through the years. how the organization has not always been the organization it became in the mid-1990s. could you explain gun owners and
, and request funding to treat mental illness as well as funding to enhance school safety. already the nra is on the attack before it's even seen the plan. the group released this ad which paints obama as an elitist hypocrite. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school? mr. obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he's just another elitist hypocrite when it comes to a fair share of security. protection for their kids and gun free zones for ours. >> it's a tough ad. dan lothian is at the white house. but i understand the president is fighting back with his own pr strategy because when he makes his big announcement he'll be surrounded by children who wrote letters to him begging for gun control. >> reporter: that's right. you know, we see the white house do this in the past, usually it's around a fiscal fight where the president's putting pressure on congress he'll be surrounded by families from across the country. well, in fact, the
to "morning joe." it's funny, that ad was fake. we have a real one by the nra which we will show you coming up, which it should be fake. it's wednesday, january 16th. good to have everyone with us. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle. hello, mike. >> hello. >> you look nice today. >> thank you. >> donny, doesn't he put together well in. >> on the barnicle scale. >> he's adorable. chairman of deutsche incorporated, donny deutsch. >> but -- you know what? it's okay. i put a lot of effort into my has be haberdashery and still no comment. >> now ceo of melanie barnes solutions, melanie barnes, you worked in the white house very high up. huh. interesting. notice anything here, gentlemen? >> yeah, where is he? >> oh, joe's here. he's coming. he's going to pop up on screen. i was just noticing that melanie happens to be a woman and worked in the white house. >> and worked in the white house. >> good god! >> policy adviser. >> this is something. take note. no, but i should do a blog on cool women like you. so we'll have to catch up. and joe's going to be joining us. actually i see
confirmed dead in algeria. cnn communicates with another hostage who managed to escape. the nra's power is growing even after newtown. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, breaking news on lance armstrong. coming clean, part two. the 41-year-old former cyclist continued his confession with more revelations about his cheating and lying for more than a decade. ed lavandera has been following the story. he's in austin tonight. ed? >> reporter: erin, oprah promised leading into this interview that it was at times emotional, and on this second night is when we finally saw some of that emotion. lance armstrong becoming the most emotional we saw him in this two-night interview when he had to explain to his kids that he had been lying all along for more than a decade. >> when this all really started, i saw my son defending me and saying that's not true. what you're saying about my dad is not true. and it almost goes to this question of why now. yeah. that's when i knew i had to tell him. and he'd never asked me. he'd never said, dad, is this true? he trusted
." >>> the number of american husband holds with guns is on the decline but the nra's power is growing. it is growing even after newtown. breaking news, one american has been killed in the algeria hostage situation. we'll tell you what we know about that man and the other americans we are aware of tonight. let's get straight to jill dougherty at the state department. first, jill, what can you tell us about the american who died? >> there are not a lot of details. we can confirm according to a senior u.s. official that one american is dead. family has been notified that this person has died. but other than that, where they died, how they died, and maybe when they died, is not clear. after all, this began three days ago. and then the operation has been ongoing for two days. so not clear. a lot of those details. i can tell you that this afternoon, before this news broke, secretary of state hillary clinton did express condolences to the families of those people, people from several countries, who died in this terrorist act. and yet at this point we don't know many details at all of how man
. it was the first white house meeting for the nra in nearly two decades yesterday and this morning its president told matt lauer he was not pleased about how it went. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration. first of all on what would make a difference. we don't think a ban on so-called assault weapons which hasn't worked in the past will work this time. >> one of the major pieces the vice president appears to be focused on is not the assault weapons ban but background checks. >> there's a surprising -- so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal background checks. not just close the gun show loophole but total universal background checks, including private sales. >> and the "washington post" reports today the white house is at least considering an nra proposal to fund police in schools, that's something now being pushed by democratic senator barbara boxer. i want to bring in "washington post" columnist ruth marcus and ryan grim. good to see you both. >> good morning. >> the nra said and i'm quoting here, we were disappointed with how little this mee
term. but fewer than half of americans approve of what he's doing. here is the bottom line. is the nra winning the gun debate? >>> plus doctors racing to save the vision of a man attacked a acid. police investigating whether his work with the ballet is the reason for the horrific attack. [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. in the middle of the night it can be frustrating. it's hard to turn off and go back to sleep. intermezzo is the first and only prescription sleep aid approved for use as needed in the middle of the night when you can't get back to sleep. it's an effective sleep medicine you don't take before bedtime. take it in bed only when you need it and have at least four hours left for sleep. do not take intermezzo if you have had an allergic reaction to drugs containing zolpidem, such as ambien. allergic reactions such as shortness of breath or swelling of your tongue or throat may occur and may be fatal. intermezzo should not be taken if you have taken another sleep medicine at b
.r. offensive, so is the national rifle association. politico reporting today the nra is unleashing an army of lobbyists on washington and have you seen this? the nra hitting the president squarely with a new ad spotlighting his own daughters. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools? when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school. >> putting out an ad talking about the president's daughters? >> they are out of step, out of the mainstream, totally out of sync with what's going on in our society and quite frankly, after seeing that, i think some of the people that run that thing are sick. >> joining me now, congressman james clyburn, who serves as assistant democratic leader. sir, good to have you here. first i just want to get your reaction. you have seen that nra ad. what's your reaction? >> first of all, thomas, thank you so much for having me. that is way over the top. i was just taken aback when i heard that this morning. i have no idea who is making the decisions regarding this group. they r
to put up remarkable numbers them. nra contributed $20 million to federal campaigns last year. $20 million and gun control groups gave $4,000. and, 50% of the members of the new congress, more than half have an a-rating from the nra. given all of that, how do you and other groups that feel as you do, hope to take on the gun lobby in practical terms? how do you match their money and clout on capitol hill. >> look, the nra spent a lot of money on the elections last cycle and didn't have a lot to show for it, especially if you look at the senate and a lot of their candidates lost and, we're looking at return on investment, they had a very low return on investment. but, of course the nra is a very strong lobby and, i think the issue here is, who is going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate? we are talking about things that seem like common sense to the american people and they understand we need to protect people's rights to own a gun in their own home an protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter and we have to sol
before the nra gets organized. he failed to do it andologic had -- and lbj had a bill bottled up in the committee and it went through with much less in october and the president spoke angrily about the failure to do something to defeat the gun lobby. while i have a spirit of the season and feeling things have changed and saw joe's powerful statement in the immediate aftermath of the killings, i have my doubts whether this president and this congress have the guts and strength and political courage to go forward. >> they have to move quickly, don't they? >> i think they do. you can't lose them. the sense of moral urgency that comes with proximity to this thing. right now, the nra is on its heels. the defenders of per miss gun laws are in a defensive crouch right now and the time you want to capitalize on that. the only time. you don't want to let any sense of complacency step back and allow the forces time to regroup and bolster their efforts. they will exist. this will not be an easy thing to get done. >> mika, we talked about this happening in shopping malls in other gone and mo
. >>> also, the president of the nra is here in "the situation room." we're getting his reaction to the sweeping proposals against gun violence. and the presidential inauguration only five days away. we'll take you inside the law enforcement command center working to keep him safe. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> this is cnn breaking news. >> let's get to the breaking news. a deadly terrorist attack on a gas field in eastern algeria near the libyan border. some of the more than 40 hostages seized have been released but a number of them are still being held, including americans. the state department confirms those americans are affiliated with the oil giant bp. let's bring in elise labott. the latest information you're getting is what? >> well, at first these assailants, these affiliated-al qaeda militants tried to storm a bus, these bp employees headed for an air field in nearby eastern algeria, that was not successful. then they stormed the compound of this living -- the living quarters of this air field and they took about 40 hostages. we understand that a
't be allowed. >> the president of the nra -- sorry, go ahead. >> the whole thing with the magazines, you know, that carry 30 bullets, is crazy. first of all, an assault weapon, and that's what we're talking about. becomes an assault weapon in most cases once you connect it to that magazine. so a lot of these guns are sold as single-shotguns, but all you have to do is connect it with that 30-round magazine and all of a sudden you have a very destructive instrument, which, by the way, has really been designed in essence to kill people. people don't go hunting with 30-magazine clip semiautomatic weapons. they don't protect their homes with these instruments, these instruments are for killing. that's what they're for. and we have to limit that. we talked about the magazines, about permitting, and we have to have an assault weapons ban that works, and has a broad definition so manufacturers don't sneak things by them. >> as you know, the president of the nra said yesterday a ban won't be able to get through congress. to that you say what? >> if it doesn't, it's because the nra won't let it happen.
on the all guns all the time ideology and put armed guards in every american school. the nra promises to marshall their formidable, political and financial resources to fight any new reforms every step of the way. they will do so with the support of allies in congress, most notably republicans on the house committee who continue to propose limits on assault weapons. no surprises there. by now, we are familiar with the political players and per am ters with the debate that feels as old as the second amendment itself or at least we think we are. because history tells us a different story. it tells us that all of our uniquely american relationships to guns, who is allowed to have them, who feels threatened by them and how our laws seek to find a balance between the two extremes have never been fixed. in fact, that history reflects a series of ever evolving, conflicting contradictory points that have been characterized not by policy, but panic. panic over perceptions of who is with us and who is against us. this time, it is a panic inspired by the fear a madman will walk into a public spa
't be allowed. and then of course -- >> but the problem with the nra, sorry, go ahead. >> the whole thing with these magazi magazines. you know they carry 30 bullets, that is crazy, first of all, the assault weapon, that is what we're talking about. becomes an assault weapon in most cases once you connect it to that magazine. so a lot of these guns are sold as single shot guns, but all you have to do is connect it with a 30-round magazine, and all of a sudden you have a very destructive magazine, which has really been designed in essence to kill people. people don't go hunting with those semiautomatic weapons, nor do they protect their homes with these kinds of instruments. these instruments are for killing. that is what they're for, and then third, so we talked about the magazines and permitting. and thirdly we have to have an assault weapons ban that works and has a broad definition so manufacturers don't sneak themes by them. >> as you know, the president of the nra said a ban won't get through congress, to that, you said what? >> these weapons, the way they were used in columbine or n
in the nbc news/"wall street journal" about the nra. 41% think of them positively, 34% negative. hollywood think 23% favorable, 46% negatively. we talked before about lance armstrong and pr. clearly the nra has got a pr challenge here. how do you think they've done so far since newtown in positioning themselves to be strong in this fight? >> why are you looking at me, mark? >> i'm just starting with you randomly. i went alphabetical. >> yeah, the nra has had good days and bad days in this. and actually, that depends how you look at it. even when the nra has a bad day and the media is calling them too aggressive, that's a good day for the nra. that usually ends up working in their favor in terms of membership. but, you know, i think the politics of maligning the nra is probably not a strategically good idea. that poll, for example, showing the favorability numbers, gun sales have skyrocketed, there's been an urgency to vilify the nra. for example, there's an ad out right now, one of a dozen, maligning a congressman named john barrow, a democrat in georgia. it's a democrat-on-democrat sort o
, the courageous father who lost his son to sandy hook. >>> and this crime fighter says the nra has held congress hostage for years. plus, a former congressman and nra point person who says this. >> there is nothing more critical to our nation's well-being than our children's safety. >> why he thinks the way to stop school shootings is to put an armed gun outside the room. >> i wouldn't know what to do with an assault rifle, wouldn't know why i would want one. this "piers morgan tonight". >>> vice president joe biden is expected to hand president obama his recommendations to stop gun violence, meanwhile, the parents who lost their children in the massacre at sandy hook elementary school are speaking out. >> we want to bring out changes that will stop this type of tragedy from happening to any community ever again. because this can happen in any community, your community. it has already happened in tucson, littleton, aurora and blacksburg. it has already happened in theaters, places of worship, malls and offices. >> here is where i stand on guns, i am in favor of a ban on high-capacity magazines a
the statistics, i know the fbi data, i teach it, but most americans believe the nra propaganda. the nra buys scholars. they buy statistics. it's just wrong. >> lies. total lies. britain has strong gun control, for example. and averages 35 gun murders a year. america has very lax gun control and has 11,000. britain is about a fifth the size of america. i can do simple math. japan has the toughest gun control in the world. they have two or three murders a year. australia had a massacre in the '90s. they brought in a ban on all main high-powered guns and assault rifles and so on. they have had no mass shootings since. this is not rocket science. it's there to be had. the problem is that the nra, and i'm sure mr. jones is a big fan of theirs and probably helps them. >> he probably thinks they're way, way,way too much part of the establishment. he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't
to try to prevent another massacre before the nra gets the floor. what we can expect in a live report this morning. >>> take me out to the hall of fame? today we'll learn the new baseball hall of fame class. should players tainted by the steroid era make it in? >>> the u.s. government spent more than $100 billion to save aig, poster child for the bad bailouts. why is the insurance giant saying it got a raw deal and considering suing the government. >>> and a great white shark threatening florida beaches. how scientists in utah sent a warning. >>> we'll speak with ron johnson, jen psaki, dan shaughnes shaughnessy, and jenn sterger. actress and model who had her own moment with brent musburger. and model cameron russell, who will tell us why she doesn't think girls should be models. "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome, everybody. starting point this morning, the nra and the white house, 24 hours from a face-to-face gun control conversation. national rifle association confirming it will meet with vice president biden's gun violence panel tomorrow. they don't sown so thrilled a
. >> all right. we have heard a lot about the political strength of the nra. there was a lot of discussion about whether the president would follow up the speech, the moving speech at the memorial with some kind of executive and legislative component and so i guess my first question to you is how -- what were you anticipating you would see from the president? was this more or less than you thought you would get out of him? >> well, i was glad to see the executive orders. we needed to do something and congress hasn't been exactly the best at acting in the last session, so i'm hopeful we can deal with bigger, broader issues when we actually get to some legislation but i'm glad the president took the initiative and really took the lead. >> that leadership effort is critical. if we can continue that kind of relationship you get the president, the executive branch saying this has got to occur, this is what needs to occur, lay out a format giving congress then a renewed opportunity to pass reform legislation that is going to make a difference in the lives of all of our constituents. >> i felt ve
the vice president and represents the nra rather than wayne lapierre who i think cost the nra a huge, huge percentage of people who support the nra, obviously. but universal background checks gets the door open, and maybe then you can get high-capacity magazines. >> 75% want that also. so i keep missing the political minefield of why a republican can't move on guns. i'm not seeing it. i look at the numbers. >> look at the 100,000 new members of the nra, literally, now, of all times? it's a pretty deep division, andrea mitchell. >> and i have seen no sign, even though they very smartly did keep wayne lapierre out of the white house meeting, i don't see any sign that the nra is ready to give on the background checks, even, which they ought to. but they have not conceded anything. they feel really empowered, as mika just pointed out, the rise in members, they say rise in money, but it isn't their grass-roots membership that really matters, it's the clout they have in washington. they feel really empowered by this, and guns are leaping off the shelves even as the vice president was sitting dow
in the accelerating debate on guns and gun control. gabrielle giffords and nra are making their voices heard in new ways. >>> also, egypt's new president joins me to talk about tahrir square. a one-time symbol of hope is now dirty and oppressive. >>> plus, a mystery that started with a winning lottery ticket and ended with a deadly poisoning. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with this afternoon's announcement that the national rifle association is joining the white house in the discussion of gun violence in america. a representative will meet with vice president biden this week. what will they be doing? lisa sylvester is walking into "the situation room" right now. you've been doing some reporting, lisa. what is the very latest? >> wolf, leaders from both the private and public sectors are offering specific proposals on gun control, all sides aware of how politically sensitive the issue has become and the leading voice comes from someone with the political and personal experience that is sure to command attention here in washington. on the two-year anniversary of the t
now for grace. >> the nra is getting ready for battle raising money and emailing supporters to upgrade their membership for quote the fight of the century. >> we're not saying that your rights are at risk the president of the united states is saying that. >> so where do things go from here? nbc's tracie potts is in washington for us. how is the president going to get the public and congress to support this legislative agenda? >> reporter: you were talking about the nra getting ready for a battle. the white house has a battle plan as well. it started last night. the president put an op-ed in the connecticut local connecticut newspaper near newtown where the shooting happened putting the pressure on congress saying they need to help and not hinder this process. the white house also has a campaign style tour planned for the president to talk about his gun control measures. no word yet what the stops are but they are hoping it will drum up public support. the polls are showing the public is increasingly favoring an assault weapons ban and even universal background checks a big part of his
newtown and you said you hoped to get the nra on board for the effort of trying to come up with a solution. we know that vice president biden is going to talk about universal background checks. we know he's going to talk about some kind of limits on high-capacity gun magazines. how far are you prepared to go and can you bring the nra along? >> george, basically we have a cultural -- we have to change the culture of mass violence we have. if you think it's only about guns and that would change the culture, you'd be wrong. if you think it's only about the lack of mental illness coverage that we give and -- you'd be wrong there, and if you think it's only about the media with the video games, it takes an all-in approach. i have linked up with and i will be with john mccain introducing a bill that joe lieberman, our dear friend, has been championing for a long time putting a commission about mass violence together and bring experts from all different fields and you bring people such as myself that are nra members that have been sportsmen all our lives and look for a commonsense approach to how
, but he did not move the country which is what he's trying to do with the nra. obama's approval rating 52%, the nra's approval rating 54%. >> republicans in congress is 17%. >> since gun control came back to the top of the agenda, the nra has acquired 250,000 new members, so we're going to find out. you saw by putting up the statements by some of the democratic senators that there's a resistance in the democratic caucus because they have six seats up next time. >> all of those senators, i showed. >> in states where mr. obama got less than 42% of the votes, the republicans need to control the senate six seats. >> so how hard does he push this, cokie? >> i think he pushes parts of it. the assault weapons ban is obviously a huge problem and that's what most people are pushing back against. although it is interesting with the increased number of women in congress that it might have a better shot than 1994, 29% of republican men voted for the assault weapons ban and almost 70% of republican women. so you could see a difference because of that. but i think that background checks, waiting period
are compiling it all and all the rest of the members. prar. >> the nra is sending a lobbyist and the nations's largest retailer of guns admitted it is underestimating the expectation to attend the meeting. it did under estimated it and back tracked the decision to participate. peter alexander joins us from the white house. peter, has the white house elaborated on vice president joe biden's comment on executive action? >> it's a good question and i finished a conversation with the president of the brady campaign against gun violence. i said did you learn anything more about what the action could look like? what could it look like? the white house or at least the vice president with more than 20 people in the room did not list any specific actions that could take place. that's one thing we are all hanging on here at the white house. to find out not just what the president may propose in terms of comprehensive reform that would require and need to go through congress, but what he could do today in the absence of congress, we are waiting to find out what that might be. >> joining us now is a dem
president biden and the nra, their much-hyped gun control sitdown, hours away. >> and hollywood's best waiting with anticipation. we are counting down to the academy award nominations. >> i can't wait. >> are you excited? >> i love the movies. sure. >> so do i. >> i think "argo" is the only one i want to see that got a lot of nominations. >> welcome to "early start." i'm zoraida sambolin. >> i'm john berman. we will start with the flu. it is spreading with a vengeance across the u.s. not only did the flu season get off to a really early start, cases are proving to be more severe than last year. the latest flu advisory says 41 states are dealing with widespread activity, more than 2,200 people are hospitalized. the hardest-hit states, pennsylvania and south carolina. each reporting 22 flu-related deaths. illinois now says they had six deaths. cases in south dakota spiked, almost doubling in the span of a week. it's so ban in boston, they declared a public health emergency. since october there have been 700 confirmed cases in boston, a rate ten times higher than last year. >> we've seen
? no more innocent loss of life? >> the nra, though, is vowing to fight any restrictions on guns. they don't believe that an assault weapons ban will be able to make it through congress, but nonetheless, the public out there seemingly on the side of what some of these lawmakers are pushing. an abc washington news/washington post poll say 58% support it, 39% oppose it. 51% support a ban on semi-automatic handgun, 46% oppose. on high-capacity clips, 65% support it. 32% oppose it. a lot of things they're trying to deal with. >> dan lothian at the white house. thank you very much. >>> about 18 minutes past the hour. right now let's get you updated on all the news this morning. after denial, lance armstrong has reportedly admitted to using performance-enhancing drugs. the interview will be broadcast on oprah's tv network on thursday. >> more controversy for troubled actress lindsay lohan. the 26-year-old is expected to be arraigned on charges of a car crash from last june when she was already on probation. she fired her long-time l.a. attorney who has managed somehow to keep her out of jail so
anything about the nra or will your efforts simply to be resist resist resist? >> well we're very interested in answering the question of how do we make schools safer for our children. as you know from the very beginning after this happened we've argued that we need two things, one, we need to get at the root of the problem, which is the broken and devastatingly broken mental health care system we have in this country because most of these people all of them in fact are people with severe mental problems. secondly we need to provide security, because we can never predict how one of these people is going to act. most of the proposals that have to do with firearms are simply feel-good proposals that have been tried in the past and won't work or won't have any real impact. the real question that needs to be addressed is not what do we do about guns it's what do we do to make our children safe. >> david, we have a new cbs news/"new york times" poll out this morning that shows 85% of nra households support background checks on all gun buyers. are you out of tou
guns in the wrong hands. the nra says it merely guards against frivolous lawsuits aimed at breaking gun makers. he joins us live in this exclusive interview. >> thank you. good to be with you. >> ted kennedy said this law was bought and paid for by the nra. in your mind, what was the intent behind this law? >> the time it was passed, there were a number of suits, predominantly by municipalities against the gun industry meant to attack against the sale of saturday night specials. the proponents of the law claimed it was designed to protect them from liability simply by making an inherently dangerous product. it was written much more broadly than that. the effect has been, when gun sellers or gun manufacturers act negligently, they're immune from any kind of liability. so you can have gun dealers turning a blind eye to the sale of hundreds of weapons to straw purchasers, and when those guns are resold or conveyed to people, criminals that use them to kill people, then they can't be held liable. that makes no sense. it's a protection not needed by the good actors and not deserved by the ba
of course. >> if you were in a meeting with vice president joe biden tomorrow with the nra, and walmart, what would you be saying? >> that the discussion has not been going anywhere that we can tell in a productive way. we're not talking about making it so people can defend themselves precisely in these gun-free zones that have been the scene of all of our mass murders for the last 20 years. hopefully, at some point we're going to come to the realization that repeating the same policy year after year, getting the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results the next time. >> right, so your solution, if you were there in that meeting would be to arm every school, every church, every hospital. everywhere that members of the public could be? >> you certainly would want to encourage people who are qualified to carry concealed firearm to be able to do so in a school zone. right now, that is illegal. in all but a couple of our states and some of our institutions of higher learning. but by and large, it is prohibited. that needs to stop, because we have been using those
participating in sporting events with the nra where these assault rifles are used. he could ban funding of certain programs. there are ways he can work around the edges of gun control, but i cannot see how he would ban weapons outright. >> first of all, reality check. an executive order cannot supersede the constitution. so everyone just chill out. we have a lot of record as paul just said, of executive orders being done -- w. had 291 executive orders. again, reality check. in terms of what the president could do, in some ways, it's consistent with what the nra calls for. three things the president could do. one, prosecute criminals who lie on their background checks. 71,000 people lied on their background checks in 2009. the justice department only prosecuted 77 of them. less than 1%. that's one thing the president could do, say, look, let's prosecute that more aggressively. number two, there's another one, national institute of criminal background checks. this happened after virginia tech and the nra was instrumental in pushing for this. it said we need to make sure that mental backgr
by guns in the one month since newtown. the powerful nra responded to him immediately, saying they would fight the president hard. and they even put the president's daughters at the center of the argument. here's abc's chief white house correspondent jonathan karl. >> reporter: as gun sales across the country continue their record pace, gun advocates reacted swiftly to the president, declaring they will fight his proposals on every level. in mississippi, the governor said he wants to make it illegal in his state to enforce any new federal gun law. >> to use this tragedy somehow as to say we need great reforms is just the wrong thing to do. >> reporter: in oregon, a sheriff stood by his intention not to enforce any law he believes is unconstitutional. >> making criminals out of honest citizens, that's not the right path to go down. >> reporter: when the president made his announcement, he was joined by four kids who wrote him letters after sandy hook. >> these are some pretty smart letters from some pretty smart young people. julia said -- julia, where are you? there you go. "i'm not scar
, because of the power of the n.r.a., because of the strong national tradition in support of gun rights, scott. she believes the president and vice president will be fighting this legislative battle uphill. >> pelley: thank you, wyatt. the national rifle association says that laws restricting gun ownership are not the answer. the n.r.a. has proposed putting armed guards in schools.ls on thursday, vice president biden will meet with the n.r.a. biden has been asked by president obama to come up with new ideas to reduce gun violence. what happens when a president has to miss his own swearing-in ceremony? new problems have grounded two of boeing's new dream liner jets. and the search for a missing masterpiece comes to an end when the cbs evening news continues. continues.ut then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins. they used centrum silver for the study... so i guess my wife was right. [ male announcer ] centrum. always your most complete. hey america, even though they don't need one wes, clay, and demarcus tried on the dep
from all sides, including the n.r.a. tomorrow. >> we're here today to deal with a problem that requires immediate action, urgent action, and the president and i are determined to take action. >> reporter: he met today with victims of gun violence and gun control advocates and said the political climate will never be the same after the newtown massacre. >> i've been doing this a long time. of all the tragic events we've endured, i don't think anything has touched the heart of the american people so profoundly as seeing those young children not only being shot but riddled with bullets. >> reporter: the white house is also looking at ways to encourage gun owners to use and store their firearms more safely. it is reviewing the effectiveness of gun buyback programs, seeing if a federal buyback program might actually work. biden also said the president might side-step congress and seek to advance his agenda through executive order. senior officials offered no details, but, scott, they acknowledge there's very little the president can do to advance gun control without the consent of congress.
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